Hoss Family Genealogy

Jacob Johann Hoss

Here is a photo of him and his brothers, sisters, and father, around 1920. Jacob is second from the right on the top row.
There is some family debate about whether it was spelled Jacob or Jakob. He signed it Jacob on his citizenship papers.  

Top row, left to right, Maria Hoss , Michael Hoss, Jacob Hoss, Fritz Hoss
Bottom row, left to right, Magdalena Hoss, Elizabeth Hoss , and Albert Hoss (father)

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Born March 29, 1892 in Mainz Kastel Germany. Jacob was a master shipbuilder in Germany and an employee of the 'Berlinghaus-shipyard' at Cologne-Mühlheim, and served as a sergeant in the German Army in World 1, prior to emigrating to the United States in the 1920s. His first job was as a machinest in the American Laundry factory on Buffalo Road in Rochester NY. Approximately 1932 he went into the sausage manufacturing business with a partner named Sattle, who was a sausage maker by trade The main store was at 1227 North Clinton Avenue in Rochester, and later had2 branch shops.. Th eHoss German Sausage Shop made around 60 varieties of sausages and cold cuts, imported about 105 varieties of European cheeses, and over 300 varieties of European candies, plus other German items like multiple-types of pickled herring (imported in 20-50 gallon wooden barrels), eel in aspic, baking goods, and canned goods.

He married Margarethe (Gerda) Porzelt who was born in 1888 in Neukenroth Germany. She had 5 sisters and 2 brothers. Her father worked in a coal mine. They had two children, Ferdinand Hoss, and Margaret (Marge) Madeline Hoss who married Carsten (Cars) Borglum (see borglum.com listing XD). Family photo 1943, on the immigration boat , Jacob with Keith 1952 , Magarethe with grandchildren 1960s

Jacob died Feb 26, 1953, as a result of a heart attack suffered after a court appearance, apparently due to the stress of being sued by a person who tripped over a public utility gas pipe in the sidewalk in front of his meat market, the Hoss German Sausage Shop, in Rochester, New York, USA. article about the sausage shop
He had the heart attack while driving on Main Street in Rochester at the corner of State Street. He had enough time to pull to the curb in a bus lane, which prompted a policeman to come running over and he pronounced him dead.

His wife Margarethe died of old age some years later after suffering a stroke in her sleep in the Webster home she shared with Marge, Cars, and their family after the death of Jacob.

Jacob's son Ferdinand, born in 1919, and married Ruth cockburn. Ferdinand was an avid sportsman, who died in 1952 in a solo boating accident on Sodus Bay while duck hunting in upstate NY, leaving Ruth a widow with their son Michael. Ruth later married Lawrence Rossiter with whom she had a daughter Maureen (so no Hoss blood).
Jacob's daughter Margaret married Carsten Borglum, both of whom took over the Hoss German Sausage Shop and ran it until the mid 1970s, when they sold it to Lawrence Rossiter whom had worked in the shop for many years. Cars and Marge's eldest son and daughter also worked in the sausage shop until their teens when it was sold. Cars and Marge had six children, most of which lived near them in the Orlando Florida area. Carsten died in 2004 and Marge died in 2011 and are buried in the family plot with Jacob and Margarthe in Holy Sepulchre Cemetery in Rochester NY.

We believe Jacob is also in this 1913 photo. The scroll reads "Konigl. Bayr. Inf Regt. No.23 Saargemund", meaning Königlich Bayerisches Infanterie-Regiment 23 of "Company 5, The King's Bavarian Infantry Regiment No. 23 in the Saar 1911-1913". Which then led me to this, except that it references cavlary, not infantry, but there is a horse in our photo. Click here for a 31 MB high resolution copy of this postcard photo of Königlich Bayerisches Infanterie-Regiment 23 that you will need to download to your computer then view in a photo viewer, because it will be too big for your screen. You can then blow it up further and will be able to see that the city background is painted, and some officers and accents are merely painted props, and every soldier has a beer stein.

I found this translation Königlich Bayerisches 5. Chevaulegers-Regiment "Erzherzog Friedrich von Österreich" / Saargemünd at this site, but with no content.

This is what I find on Wikipedia in German: The Infantry Regiment "King Ferdinand of Bulgaria, No. 23 was, along with the Infantry Regiment No. 22 , an association of the fifth Infantry Brigade of the Bavarian army . The regiment was formed on 1 April 1897 from the fourth half battalions of the 4th , 8th , 17th and 18th Infantry Regiment in Landau in der Pfalz (staff, I. Battalion ) and Sarreguemines (II Battalion) established. This seems to match with this page about Colonel Rudolf Danner.

We would like help verifying this. Contact webmeister at borglum.com ("at" = @ to foil spammers)

In October 2002 we recieved significant information on his ancestry, (listed below ), and would appreciate any additional input you may have.


The following is reprinted from emails received ( I LOVE getting emails like this, it's the best part of building this site):

Subject: Jakob Johann Hoss - Robert Hoss

From: m.r.hoss@hotmail.de

Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 13:26:01 +0200

Dear Keith,

My name is Robert Hoss, I'm 46 years old and live in Germany.

Surfing in the internet I found your notice about one of your ancestors. I can give you further informations about Jacob Hoss / the Hoss family in Germany, because Jacob Hoss was the brother of my great-grand father.

I would like to give you a feed back concerning the family picture.

From the right to the left:
Fritz Hoss (Hoß), Jakob's brother, moved in 1920 from Mainz to Cologne after he returned from his captivity as a prisoner of war in France during WW I. There he met his sister Maria. Jacob joined them there (when, is not clear). Fritz died in 1962 and is buried in our family grave in Mainz-Kastel.

Albert Hoss (brother and my grand-grandfather) is right in front of your ancestor Jacob Hoss (who emigrated to the US in early 1920 - that's what my family told me.

Who's the man next to Jacob, I'm not quite sure because due to the results of my investigations (approx. ten years ago) the father of Jacob, Johann Gregor Hoss, died 28.04.1896 (35 years old) in Mainz-Kostheim and his wife Katharina Hoss didn't marry again. So if this photograh was taken around 1920 - he was already dead. I know that there were 6 children (4 brothers and 2 sisters) therefore it's more realistic that the 4th man on the picture is the brother Michael Hoss.

One of the two sisters is Elisabeth Hoss ( Zerbe after marriage - this is the "Zerbe"-branch of our family and I can give you informations as well ). I'll try to get out more about the persons on the picture.

I have documents going back until the middle of the 18th century. Our family lived all the time in a close area ( near Mainz ). The origin is Mainz-Laubenheim. From there Johann Gregor Hoss moved to Mainz-Kostheim in the 2nd half of 19th century, got married and had his family.

Our families history is so exciting for me, therefore I today contacted all people I know to get clear about the "picture". What I knew was that I have seen this picture somewhere in the past and I recognized the discussions about who is who on this picture. Clear was who is your great-great-grandfather and who is mine. Today I visited my parents and my aunt to tell my story and get more information about the picture. My aunt told me that your mother visited us after World War II and your great-great-grandfather Jacob supported our family at that time by sending "care-packages" and more-over sponsored her Communion in the end of the 1940s (?) sending her shoes and a dress.

Tomorrow I'm going to meet a cousin (f) of my fathter to fix the "who is who" of the picture. Anyway, I'm happy to get a small kick to continue my investigations and I'm happy beeing able to support you. I hope my English is not too bad.

Awaiting your next mail with excitement

best regards

Robert


Subject:
RE: new question/relation Michael Hoss?
From:Marion Ruth HOSS <m.r.hoss@hotmail.de>
Date:Sun, 2 Mar 2008 16:46:56 +0100
To:Keith Borglum <keith@borglum.com>

Dear Keith,

thanks a lot for your mail attached below. Regarding your questions related to the family picture on your webpage (http://www.borglum.com/hoss/images/jacobjohannhoss.html) :

The picture shows the brothers and sisters including your grandfather Jacob Hoss - consequently the title has to be corrected (probably the family tree aswell).

At the time the picture was take, 'JOHANN JACOB HOSS' the father of the six children already died. As far as got told from my relatives still alive, my grand-grand-father 'Albert' (brother of your grand-father 'Jacob') covered the role of father at that time. We can taken into account that this picture was shot to document the family before disintegration.

Regarding Carols answer I see now direct link to our family history (in case of your grandfathers brother 'Michael'. What I can imagine is that from emigration periods more past, that there is any link. We know that the 'Laubenheim-branch' of our family was much bigger than we know now. Moreover after the '30 Years War' in Europe over several periods especially from our region here in Germany people emigrated to America. Your grandfather Jacob participated in one of the last bigger streams due to the reason of big unemployment rate and without propects to the future. This is one part of our common history not only in terms of family.
Coming back to the question Carol addressed to you in origin, there is a chance that in periods more past than in case of Jacob someone of our ancestors from Laubenheim emigrated to the USA. But there are more places in Europe where 'Hoss' or 'Hohs' or 'Hosz' lived or decided to move somewhere else.

At the end of my e-mail, I would like to inform you that my father Albert died 27/02/2006. At that time I tried to contact Anneliese (Kippert) as well but without success. I will take your e-mail to pic up to get clear about here once again and inform you accordingly.

I do hope that my mail will help you. What about Marge ? Please let me know what's the matter with here.

Kind regards

Robert
m.r.hoss@hotmail.de

 

 


here's a letter from Fred Bouchard, one of Jacob's employees in 2005 at the time of Carsten's funeral (Marge's husband and Jacob's son-in-law )